Nids Help/Build Request

Email from Zubin Lal - >Hey, >I have a question on Nids. Would it be smart to have an "elite warrior" army which would be "tricked" out Warriors with lots of Carapace armour upgrades and Syching Talons. Sorry if questions are newby but I'm new :). >Thanks, >Z

Reply:

Thanks for the email Z :)

OK well all warrior armies are not my fav and not really that competitive but I will see what I can do.

The first thing to realize is what you need in the list. There are 3 major things that are needed:

1. Anti-infantry
2. Anti-vehicle
3. A CC threat

Now those 3 things are important to a good army build. The only problem is that Nids don't have a great anti-vehicle option (don't try to pretend that a carnifex or warp blast is one because well it is not). With that the best I can do is well make do with what they do have.

The next step is to pick the units that we can have in the army while sticking to the "theme" of the army being warriors:

HQ

• Warriors

Elites

• Warriors
• "Elite" Carnifexes
• Lictors would be here but they cost too much and we need the slots for warriors ;)

Troops

• Gaunts
• Genestealers if points allow

Fast Attack

• Well there isn't much to do here. I mean flying warriors look cool but a 5+ armour save is not :(
• We could use raveners but leaping warrior (spoiler alert are better IMO)

Heavy Support

• Zoanthropes
• Carnifexes

OK now that we know what we can take it is now time to lay out the structure of the list. Now this list is going to be a bit min maxish but most nid list are like that now...

OK so where to start....

Oh yeah warriors. So the army will only need two types of them; Shooty and Combat warriors.

First type up will be shooty. These will have the following loadout:

• Toxin Sacs
• Deathspitters
• One different weapon-symbiote for each warrior (this is for wound allocation - go look it up on a 40k forum and you will find something about it and how it works)

Each warrior will run 27pts plus the cost of the second weapon. In addition on warrior will be armed with a barbed strangler instead of a death spitter.

Ok so onto the CC Warriors. There loadout will be as follows:

• Leaping
• Adrenal Glands (I and WS)
• Extended Carapace
• Flesh Hooks
• Toxin Sacs
• Rending Claws
• Scything Talons

These run about 37pts each.

OK so now we have our warriors as we want to take them so lets put that in the back of our head and get to the rest of the stuff in the list.

Next up is the carnifex. Ok so these are not "warriors" but I like to think of them as big fat warriors ;)

OK so for this list I will use a build of carnifex called a boomfex. It is equipped like this:

• Scything Talons
• Barded Stanglers

So this runs 113pts and serves as a jack of all trades for the list.

Onto the zoanthropes. They are quite simple. They have warp blast and synapse. These guys serve as an anti-tank/MEQ unit (althou they are not the most reliable they are all the nids have for anti-tank that will destroy a vehicle at range).

OK so we now know everything in the list other than the troops section. So lets recap on what we have:

2 units of 6 shooty warriors (as HQ) - 392 pts

2 units of 5 close combat (as elites) - 444 pts

1 Boomfex (taken as an elite choice) - 113 pts

2 Boomfexes (taken as Heavy Support) - 226 pts

3 Zoanthropes w/ synapse and warp blast - 195 pts

This brings the point total to 1376 pts so far. That leaves 124 pts for troops. Not much so lets see what we can drop. Lets drop one boomfex that gives us 237 pts to work with... much better.

For troops we need some small units of WoN spine gaunts to provide mobile cover and to claim objectives after they die and come back on the board. Lets take 2 broods of 8 of them. That leaves us with 109pts. With those points lets buy an outflanking brood of genestealers. Give them feeder tendrils and scuttlers and you are done. Take and brood of 6 of them and that is it. That unit costs 120pts so we are 11 pts over. So where to shake a 11 pts? Lets just drop one synapse off 2 of the zoanthropes. We are now done.

So here is the final list:

1500 Pts - Tyranids Roster

HQ: Warriors (6#, 196 pts)

1 Warriors @ 196 pts (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Lash Whips x1; Deathspitter; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons x1; Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws x1; Deathspitter; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons x1; Deathspitter; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Deathspitter; Spinefists; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Deathspitter; Fleshborer; Synapse Creature)

HQ: Warriors (6#, 196 pts)

1 Warriors @ 196 pts (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Lash Whips x1; Deathspitter; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons x1; Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws x1; Deathspitter; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons x1; Deathspitter; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Deathspitter; Spinefists; Synapse Creature)

1 Warriors (Toxin Sacs +1 St; Deathspitter; Fleshborer; Synapse Creature)

Elite: Warriors (5#, 225 pts)

5 Warriors @ 225 pts (Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws x1; Scything Talons x1; Synapse Creature)

Elite: Warriors (5#, 225 pts)

5 Warriors @ 225 pts (Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws x1; Scything Talons x1; Synapse Creature)

Troops: Gaunt Brood (8#, 64 pts)

8 Gaunt Brood @ 64 pts (Spinefists; Without Number)

Troops: Gaunt Brood (8#, 64 pts)

8 Gaunt Brood @ 64 pts (Spinefists; Without Number)

Troops: Genestealers (6#, 120 pts)

6 Genestealers @ 120 pts (Feeder Tendrils; Scuttlers; Rending Claws)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 113 pts)

1 Carnifex @ 113 pts (Scything Talons x1; Barbed Strangler)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 113 pts)

1 Carnifex @ 113 pts (Scything Talons x1; Barbed Strangler)

Heavy Support: Zoanthrope (3#, 175 pts)

1 Zoanthrope @ 175 pts (Toxic Miasma; Synapse Creature; Warp Blast; Warp Field)

1 Zoanthrope (Toxic Miasma; Warp Blast; Warp Field)

1 Zoanthrope (Toxic Miasma; Warp Blast; Warp Field)

Total Roster Cost: 1491

If you want an expanded list to 1750 or 1850pts ect... then just ask :)

*note that this army is not the most competitive but it would be fun to play :)*